HI!
Many people are downloading and compiling "stable" releases from http://www.openldap.org/software/download/ which is IMO problematic:
Most developers consider those "stable" releases to be rather outdated since lots of fixes are missing and they don't want to get bothered with old issues (which I personally perfectly understand). ITS filed against those "stable" versions are most times answered like "get a more recent release".
There is no well-defined process how to determine whether a release has reached "stable" status.
=> My suggestion: Simply drop "stable" completely and list only the releases with version number without further qualification. Today most people can deal with version numbers quite well.
Ciao, Michael.
--On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:27 PM +0100 Michael Ströder michael@stroeder.com wrote:
=> My suggestion: Simply drop "stable" completely and list only the releases with version number without further qualification. Today most people can deal with version numbers quite well.
I fairly well agree. OpenLDAP 2.4.23 has a number of serious problems. OpenLDAP 2.4.26 is much more "stable". I think it is unfortunate that 2.4.23 is still listed as the "stable" release on the downloads page. There may still yet be bugs in 2.4.26, but it is a vast improvement over 2.4.23, 2.4.24, or 2.4.25.
--Quanah
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Quanah Gibson-Mount Sr. Member of Technical Staff Zimbra, Inc A Division of VMware, Inc. -------------------- Zimbra :: the leader in open source messaging and collaboration
If stable is not dropped, at least have a page for known 'bad problems' for the releases. This would help to inform users why they would or would not want a particular release.
-William
On 11/09/2011 11:19 AM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
--On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:27 PM +0100 Michael Ströder michael@stroeder.com wrote:
=> My suggestion: Simply drop "stable" completely and list only the releases with version number without further qualification. Today most people can deal with version numbers quite well.
I fairly well agree. OpenLDAP 2.4.23 has a number of serious problems. OpenLDAP 2.4.26 is much more "stable". I think it is unfortunate that 2.4.23 is still listed as the "stable" release on the downloads page. There may still yet be bugs in 2.4.26, but it is a vast improvement over 2.4.23, 2.4.24, or 2.4.25.
--Quanah
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Quanah Gibson-Mount Sr. Member of Technical Staff Zimbra, Inc A Division of VMware, Inc.
Zimbra :: the leader in open source messaging and collaboration
William King wrote:
If stable is not dropped, at least have a page for known 'bad problems' for the releases. This would help to inform users why they would or would not want a particular release.
http://www.openldap.org/software/
http://www.openldap.org/software/release/changes.html
It's up to users to pay attention to the features they use and the problems they encounter, all of the information has already been provided. Aside from ITSs marked "crash" it's not possible for us to judge what's a "bad problem" since each users' environment differs so widely.
-William
On 11/09/2011 11:19 AM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
--On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:27 PM +0100 Michael Ströder michael@stroeder.com wrote:
=> My suggestion: Simply drop "stable" completely and list only the releases with version number without further qualification. Today most people can deal with version numbers quite well.
I fairly well agree. OpenLDAP 2.4.23 has a number of serious problems. OpenLDAP 2.4.26 is much more "stable". I think it is unfortunate that 2.4.23 is still listed as the "stable" release on the downloads page. There may still yet be bugs in 2.4.26, but it is a vast improvement over 2.4.23, 2.4.24, or 2.4.25.
--Quanah
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Quanah Gibson-Mount Sr. Member of Technical Staff Zimbra, Inc A Division of VMware, Inc.
Zimbra :: the leader in open source messaging and collaboration
William King wrote:
If stable is not dropped, at least have a page for known 'bad problems' for the releases. This would help to inform users why they would or would not want a particular release.
That's an even more blurry approach than the existing "stable" tag.
My rule is: It's better to have no information than incomplete/outdated/errornous information.
Ciao, Michael.
On 11/09/2011 11:19 AM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
--On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:27 PM +0100 Michael Ströder michael@stroeder.com wrote:
=> My suggestion: Simply drop "stable" completely and list only the releases with version number without further qualification. Today most people can deal with version numbers quite well.
I fairly well agree. OpenLDAP 2.4.23 has a number of serious problems. OpenLDAP 2.4.26 is much more "stable". I think it is unfortunate that 2.4.23 is still listed as the "stable" release on the downloads page. There may still yet be bugs in 2.4.26, but it is a vast improvement over 2.4.23, 2.4.24, or 2.4.25.
--Quanah
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