5:27 a.m.
HI!
Many people are downloading and compiling "stable" releases from
http://www.openldap.org/software/download/ which is IMO problematic:
Most developers consider those "stable" releases to be rather outdated since
lots of fixes are missing and they don't want to get bothered with old issues
(which I personally perfectly understand). ITS filed against those "stable"
versions are most times answered like "get a more recent release".
There is no well-defined process how to determine whether a release has
reached "stable" status.
=> My suggestion: Simply drop "stable" completely and list only the releases
with version number without further qualification. Today most people can deal
with version numbers quite well.
Ciao, Michael.
11:19 a.m.
--On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:27 PM +0100 Michael Ströder
<michael(a)stroeder.com> wrote:
=> My suggestion: Simply drop "stable" completely and
list only the
releases with version number without further qualification. Today most
people can deal with version numbers quite well.
I fairly well agree. OpenLDAP 2.4.23 has a number of serious problems.
OpenLDAP 2.4.26 is much more "stable". I think it is unfortunate that
2.4.23 is still listed as the "stable" release on the downloads page.
There may still yet be bugs in 2.4.26, but it is a vast improvement over
2.4.23, 2.4.24, or 2.4.25.
--Quanah
--
Quanah Gibson-Mount
Sr. Member of Technical Staff
Zimbra, Inc
A Division of VMware, Inc.
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11:45 a.m.
If stable is not dropped, at least have a page for known 'bad problems'
for the releases. This would help to inform users why they would or
would not want a particular release.
-William
On 11/09/2011 11:19 AM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
--On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:27 PM +0100 Michael Ströder
<michael(a)stroeder.com> wrote:
> => My suggestion: Simply drop "stable" completely and list only the
> releases with version number without further qualification. Today most
> people can deal with version numbers quite well.
I fairly well agree. OpenLDAP 2.4.23 has a number of serious
problems. OpenLDAP 2.4.26 is much more "stable". I think it is
unfortunate that 2.4.23 is still listed as the "stable" release on the
downloads page. There may still yet be bugs in 2.4.26, but it is a
vast improvement over 2.4.23, 2.4.24, or 2.4.25.
--Quanah
--
Quanah Gibson-Mount
Sr. Member of Technical Staff
Zimbra, Inc
A Division of VMware, Inc.
--------------------
Zimbra :: the leader in open source messaging and collaboration
4:04 p.m.
William King wrote:
If stable is not dropped, at least have a page for known 'bad
problems'
for the releases. This would help to inform users why they would or
would not want a particular release.
http://www.openldap.org/software/
http://www.openldap.org/software/release/changes.html
It's up to users to pay attention to the features they use and the problems
they encounter, all of the information has already been provided. Aside from
ITSs marked "crash" it's not possible for us to judge what's a "bad
problem"
since each users' environment differs so widely.
-William
On 11/09/2011 11:19 AM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
> --On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:27 PM +0100 Michael Ströder
> <michael(a)stroeder.com> wrote:
>
>> => My suggestion: Simply drop "stable" completely and list only
the
>> releases with version number without further qualification. Today most
>> people can deal with version numbers quite well.
>
> I fairly well agree. OpenLDAP 2.4.23 has a number of serious
> problems. OpenLDAP 2.4.26 is much more "stable". I think it is
> unfortunate that 2.4.23 is still listed as the "stable" release on the
> downloads page. There may still yet be bugs in 2.4.26, but it is a
> vast improvement over 2.4.23, 2.4.24, or 2.4.25.
>
> --Quanah
>
> --
>
> Quanah Gibson-Mount
> Sr. Member of Technical Staff
> Zimbra, Inc
> A Division of VMware, Inc.
> --------------------
> Zimbra :: the leader in open source messaging and collaboration
>
--
-- Howard Chu
CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com
Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/
Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/
12:57 a.m.
William King wrote:
If stable is not dropped, at least have a page for known 'bad
problems' for
the releases. This would help to inform users why they would or would not want
a particular release.
That's an even more blurry approach than the existing "stable" tag.
My rule is: It's better to have no information than
incomplete/outdated/errornous information.
Ciao, Michael.
On 11/09/2011 11:19 AM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
> --On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:27 PM +0100 Michael Ströder
> <michael(a)stroeder.com> wrote:
>
>> => My suggestion: Simply drop "stable" completely and list only the
>> releases with version number without further qualification. Today most
>> people can deal with version numbers quite well.
>
> I fairly well agree. OpenLDAP 2.4.23 has a number of serious problems.
> OpenLDAP 2.4.26 is much more "stable". I think it is unfortunate that
> 2.4.23 is still listed as the "stable" release on the downloads page.
There
> may still yet be bugs in 2.4.26, but it is a vast improvement over 2.4.23,
> 2.4.24, or 2.4.25.
>
> --Quanah
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