7:12 a.m.
HI!
BTW: Happy New Year.
What are currently the plans for releasing 2.4.46?
It's hanging in branch RE24 for quite while now.
Ciao, Michael.
7:55 a.m.
--On Monday, January 08, 2018 4:12 PM +0100 Michael Ströder
<michael(a)stroeder.com> wrote:
HI!
BTW: Happy New Year.
What are currently the plans for releasing 2.4.46?
It's hanging in branch RE24 for quite while now.
When it's ready.
--Quanah
--
Quanah Gibson-Mount
Product Architect
Symas Corporation
Packaged, certified, and supported LDAP solutions powered by OpenLDAP:
<http://www.symas.com>
12:06 a.m.
Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
--On Monday, January 08, 2018 4:12 PM +0100 Michael Ströder
<michael(a)stroeder.com> wrote:
> What are currently the plans for releasing 2.4.46?
> It's hanging in branch RE24 for quite while now.
When it's ready.
I expected this answer.
So after almost 20 years the OpenLDAP project looks pretty dead.
Ciao, Michael.
1:57 a.m.
Michael Ströder wrote:
Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
> --On Monday, January 08, 2018 4:12 PM +0100 Michael Ströder
> <michael(a)stroeder.com> wrote:
>> What are currently the plans for releasing 2.4.46?
>> It's hanging in branch RE24 for quite while now.
>
> When it's ready.
I expected this answer.
So after almost 20 years the OpenLDAP project looks pretty dead.
Not quite, but it's certainly got fewer interesting problems left to solve. As
an open source project it certainly could use some more community involvement.
Symas Corp. has been funding all of the web/email/repo resources for the past
few years, and funding nearly all of the development work too. As such most of
the development activity is being discussed on Symas-specific forums.
Obviously this is non-optimal - I keep reminding people to use this mailing
list to discuss issues, so that we have a permanent record of our technical
decisions. But there's some friction there, since current work also revolves
around customer-specific issues and we're testing with customer-specific data,
which must be kept confidential.
--
-- Howard Chu
CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com
Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/
Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/
5:32 a.m.
Michael,
First, thanks for being a good friend and supporter of the Project all these years. I
certainly hope this doesn’t drive you away in frustration. The better answer to the
original email would have been to share our dilemma with some recent ITS’s that we want to
get resolved before churning the maintenance stream. These problems occupied a significant
amount of time late last year as they cropped up in real production environments and are
in the way of new deployments.
Howard is right about Symas having done what it has done. We have not intentionally hidden
activities away from the Project. Problems have generally been faithfully reflected in the
ITS stream and certainly the code is all in the open. What appears, from the outside, as a
non-optimal dominance by Symas is reflective of a non-optimal interest by “the community”
in participating, in getting involved.
We have seen too many core technologies, mission-critical to the operation of the
Enterprise and the Internets, languish for lack of ongoing sponsorship and “interest”.
There are many reasons for this, none particularly good for the ecosystem. Symas is proud
to have kept OpenLDAP moving forward in support of real world requirements … and Open
Source.
With our best wishes to you and yours for 2018,
Marty Heyman
+1 650 963 7606
On Jan 9, 2018, at 4:57 AM, Howard Chu <hyc(a)symas.com> wrote:
Michael Ströder wrote:
> Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
>> --On Monday, January 08, 2018 4:12 PM +0100 Michael Ströder
>> <michael(a)stroeder.com> wrote:
>>> What are currently the plans for releasing 2.4.46?
>>> It's hanging in branch RE24 for quite while now.
>>
>> When it's ready.
> I expected this answer.
> So after almost 20 years the OpenLDAP project looks pretty dead.
Not quite, but it's certainly got fewer interesting problems left to solve. As an
open source project it certainly could use some more community involvement. Symas Corp.
has been funding all of the web/email/repo resources for the past few years, and funding
nearly all of the development work too. As such most of the development activity is being
discussed on Symas-specific forums.
Obviously this is non-optimal - I keep reminding people to use this mailing list to
discuss issues, so that we have a permanent record of our technical decisions. But
there's some friction there, since current work also revolves around customer-specific
issues and we're testing with customer-specific data, which must be kept
confidential.
--
-- Howard Chu
CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com
Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/
Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/
7:18 a.m.
--On Tuesday, January 09, 2018 9:57 AM +0000 Howard Chu <hyc(a)symas.com>
wrote:
Obviously this is non-optimal - I keep reminding people to use this
mailing list to discuss issues, so that we have a permanent record of our
technical decisions. But there's some friction there, since current work
also revolves around customer-specific issues and we're testing with
customer-specific data, which must be kept confidential.
The answer would have been the same regardless of any of the above. We
have no fixed release time table, nor should we. I'd also note that this
answer is not uncommon. You'd get a similar response if you were asking
other projects about when they planned to release as well.
It's also rather ironic to proclaim the project as "dead", when we've
had
one of the most productive periods in years. Issues that have languished
in the ITS system for ages are finally being looked at and addressed.
We've had significantly more traffic on the -devel list in discussion
around those fixes and other issues, with my openldap-scratch repo and ITS
reviews. Ondrej and others have also been noting their work and
development thoughts on the -devel list (See "Approaches to ITS#8772", "VC
exop and LDAPWhoAmI", "Persistent Sessionlog", etc, threads).
In addition, anyone even paying a small amount of attention to the
openldap-bugs list would see there continue to be incoming issues that
would need to be addressed before 2.4.46 is released (ITS#8791, is one
recent example). There are also clearly commits that are currently in
master only that still need review and inclusion into RE24 (ITS#8774 being
one such).
As a long time participant of the list, Michael's also more then aware that
the release process involves testing calls. So far, there have been zero
testing calls for 2.4.46. It is not hard to deduce from the lack of said
testing calls that the current code base is not considered ready for
release.
--Quanah
--
Quanah Gibson-Mount
Product Architect
Symas Corporation
Packaged, certified, and supported LDAP solutions powered by OpenLDAP:
<http://www.symas.com>
12:15 p.m.
09.01.2018, 12:57, "Howard Chu" <hyc(a)symas.com>:
Michael Ströder wrote:
> Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
>> --On Monday, January 08, 2018 4:12 PM +0100 Michael Ströder
>> <michael(a)stroeder.com> wrote:
>>> What are currently the plans for releasing 2.4.46?
>>> It's hanging in branch RE24 for quite while now.
>>
>> When it's ready.
>
> I expected this answer.
>
> So after almost 20 years the OpenLDAP project looks pretty dead.
Not quite, but it's certainly got fewer interesting problems left to solve. As
an open source project it certainly could use some more community involvement.
Symas Corp. has been funding all of the web/email/repo resources for the past
few years, and funding nearly all of the development work too. As such most of
the development activity is being discussed on Symas-specific forums.
Hello all,
I will have some questions. for OpenLDAP next versions;
1. Docker image preparation
2. Defined as an NFV service on OpenStack
3. SDN controller compatible modularity
thinking about the working on this issue?
Regards
Ozgur
Obviously this is non-optimal - I keep reminding people to use this
mailing
list to discuss issues, so that we have a permanent record of our technical
decisions. But there's some friction there, since current work also revolves
around customer-specific issues and we're testing with customer-specific data,
which must be kept confidential.
--
-- Howard Chu
CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com
Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/
Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/
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