6:08 a.m.
We are heavily utilising back-sql on our product. Granted it has its issues
but it does so far fulfill our needs. We are currently running on 2.4.58
which we build ourselves for Debian and RHEL/CentOS based systems. We
needed couple of patches to back-sql to make it work for us. I just created
issues (and added my patches) for them. I don't have a slightest idea if
the patches are of any use for you but they make our environments work.
Removing back-sql from future releases would make us stuck with 2.4 release.
https://bugs.openldap.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9629
https://bugs.openldap.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9630
--- Aapo Romu
--- Software Architect
--- Eficode Oy
On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 at 00:02, Quanah Gibson-Mount <quanah(a)symas.com> wrote:
--On Sunday, August 8, 2021 6:32 PM +0100 Howard Chu <hyc(a)symas.com>
wrote:
> Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
>> For 2.5, we deprecated:
>>
>> back-ndb
>> back-sql
>> back-perl
>>
>> Should these be removed for 2.6?
>
> I still routinely build back-perl in master. Is there any reason to
> remove it?
Not necessarily, that's why I started the discussion. back-bdb was
deprecated with 2.3, but was around for all of 2.4 as well. I see no
reason to keep back-ndb around. back-sql has numerous open issues, but
I've no real insight into whether it retains any usefulness.
--Quanah
--
Quanah Gibson-Mount
Product Architect
Symas Corporation
Packaged, certified, and supported LDAP solutions powered by OpenLDAP:
<http://www.symas.com>
10:38 a.m.
Aapo Romu wrote:
We are heavily utilising back-sql on our product. Granted it has its
issues but it does so far fulfill our needs. We are currently running on 2.4.58 which we
build ourselves for Debian and RHEL/CentOS based systems. We needed couple of patches to
back-sql to make it work for us. I just created issues (and added my
patches) for them. I don't have a slightest idea if the patches are of any use for
you but they make our environments work.
Removing back-sql from future releases would make us stuck with 2.4 release.
back-sql has been without an official maintainer for quite a long time. Are you
volunteering
to keep it maintained from this point forward?
https://bugs.openldap.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9629
https://bugs.openldap.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9630
--- Aapo Romu
--- Software Architect
--- Eficode Oy
On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 at 00:02, Quanah Gibson-Mount <quanah(a)symas.com
<mailto:quanah@symas.com>> wrote:
--On Sunday, August 8, 2021 6:32 PM +0100 Howard Chu <hyc(a)symas.com
<mailto:hyc@symas.com>> wrote:
> Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote:
>> For 2.5, we deprecated:
>>
>> back-ndb
>> back-sql
>> back-perl
>>
>> Should these be removed for 2.6?
>
> I still routinely build back-perl in master. Is there any reason to
> remove it?
Not necessarily, that's why I started the discussion. back-bdb was
deprecated with 2.3, but was around for all of 2.4 as well. I see no
reason to keep back-ndb around. back-sql has numerous open issues, but
I've no real insight into whether it retains any usefulness.
--Quanah
--
Quanah Gibson-Mount
Product Architect
Symas Corporation
Packaged, certified, and supported LDAP solutions powered by OpenLDAP:
<http://www.symas.com>
--
-- Howard Chu
CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com
Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/
Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/
6:14 a.m.
Hello, Howard and thank you for your offer of the maintainer role of
back-sql. What kind of effort / how much work does maintaining an
OpenLDAP backend module between releases usually take?
Eficode as a company is absolutely interested in supporting OpenLDAP
development efforts and we started seeking for a better candidate for
the back-sql maintainer role. We already may have a suitable candidate
for you. I keep you posted about it once he has had some time to
familiarise himself with the back-sql. Depending on the workload that
comes from the maintenance of the back-sql I might be willing to
temporarily look over things regarding that component if it would make
it more probable to stay in the future releases of the OpenLDAP.
Best regards
Aapo Romu
--- Aapo Romu
--- Software Architect
--- Eficode Oy
7:14 a.m.
Aapo Romu wrote:
Hello, Howard and thank you for your offer of the maintainer role of
back-sql. What kind of effort / how much work does maintaining an OpenLDAP backend module
between releases usually take?
The intensity of effort is up to you. There are currently 26 tickets in the ITS for
back-sql that
have never been investigated. I have no idea how long any of them would take to address.
It's up
to you to see how much can be done between releases.
https://bugs.openldap.org/buglist.cgi?component=backends&f0=OP&f1...
Eficode as a company is absolutely interested in supporting OpenLDAP development efforts
and we started seeking for a better candidate for the back-sql maintainer role. We already
may have a suitable candidate for you. I keep you posted about it once he has had some
time to familiarise himself with the back-sql. Depending on the workload that comes from
the maintenance of the back-sql I might be willing to temporarily look over things
regarding that component if it would make it more probable to stay in the future releases
of the OpenLDAP.
Best regards
Aapo Romu
--- Aapo Romu
--- Software Architect
--- Eficode Oy
--
-- Howard Chu
CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com
Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/
Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/
6:07 a.m.
Hello, Howard
I'm sorry that it took so long to respond but we needed to figure out how
we will arrange this.
So we are going to take a look at the back-sql tickets together with Eetu
next Friday and start working from there. At some point (probably at the
start of September) a third person will join us in the effort and I will
gradually move away from the back-sql stuff.
Best regards
Aapo Romu
--- Aapo Romu
--- Software Architect
--- Eficode Oy
On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 17:14, Howard Chu <hyc(a)symas.com> wrote:
Aapo Romu wrote:
> Hello, Howard and thank you for your offer of the maintainer role of
back-sql. What kind of effort / how much work does maintaining an OpenLDAP
backend module between releases usually take?
The intensity of effort is up to you. There are currently 26 tickets in
the ITS for back-sql that
have never been investigated. I have no idea how long any of them would
take to address. It's up
to you to see how much can be done between releases.
https://bugs.openldap.org/buglist.cgi?component=backends&f0=OP&f1...
>
> Eficode as a company is absolutely interested in supporting OpenLDAP
development efforts and we started seeking for a better candidate for the
back-sql maintainer role. We already may have a suitable candidate for you.
I keep you posted about it once he has had some time to familiarise himself
with the back-sql. Depending on the workload that comes from the
maintenance of the back-sql I might be willing to temporarily look over
things regarding that component if it would make it more probable to stay
in the future releases of the OpenLDAP.
>
> Best regards
> Aapo Romu
>
>
> --- Aapo Romu
> --- Software Architect
> --- Eficode Oy
--
-- Howard Chu
CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com
Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/
Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/
11:57 a.m.
--On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 5:07 PM +0300 Aapo Romu
<aapo.romu(a)eficode.com> wrote:
Hello, Howard
I'm sorry that it took so long to respond but we needed to figure out how
we will arrange this.
So we are going to take a look at the back-sql tickets together with Eetu
next Friday and start working from there. At some point (probably at the
start of September) a third person will join us in the effort and I will
gradually move away from the back-sql stuff.
Best regards
Aapo Romu
Hi Aapo,
Do you have any update on this? Unless someone actively steps up to
maintain the back-sql backend we're leaning towards removing it, most
likely in 2.7. The reported issues with it continue to expand and no one
else has expressed any interest in maintaining it.
Regards,
Quanah
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