h.b.furuseth(a)usit.uio.no wrote: Yes, and that's more obviously a bug that we can fix. It is standard practice in C code. assert() and NDEBUG are part of the C standard. A person who doesn't know C has no business building the code. Certainly the libraries are of no use to them if they're not C programmers already. Every use of assert is "assert(the code is correct)" - but that often depends on dynamic state, not just the statically written code. Just like "assert(SOCKBUF_VALID(sb))" or whatever else. That is the case for the assert in question here. -- -- Howard Chu CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/