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Thanks Andrew for the reply.=0A=0A=0AQMail schema didn't seem to work for a= distribution list. I am looking for other options as well.=0A=0AI agree th= at this is a mail system issue. I am using Exim/Dovecot for mails. I though= t it was the LDAP which gets the group mail id from the address book for th= e Mail Client. Eg. In Outlook+AD+Exchange we have the CTRL+K option which g= ets the group id that points to more than one mailing address. I think ther= e is a basic understanding between Exchange and AD that does the trick.=0A= =0AWith Regards=0ABejoy=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:= Andrew Findlay andrew.findlay@skills-1st.co.uk=0ATo: bejnet@yahoo.com=0A= Cc: openldap-its@openldap.org=0ASent: Wednesday, 3 December, 2008 2:02:05 P= M=0ASubject: Re: (ITS#5845) Distribution List support for OpenLDAP schema= =0A=0AOn Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:02:52AM +0000, bejnet@yahoo.com wrote:=0A= =0A> I want to create distribution list in OpenLDAP. Meaning - If I have a = group=0A> called admins@ldap.com and there are two members - bejoy@ldap.com= and=0A> bejnet@ldap.com; and mail is sent to admins@ldap.com =3D both thes= e members must=0A> get the email. Exchange has this feature. This mail id s= hould have a display=0A> name feature as well - that would show up on searc= h of address books.=0A> =0A> At present the work around is using qmail's sc= hema for this distribution list. I=0A> believe inetOrgPerson schema could h= ave a group version too - which would need a=0A> compulsory attribute calle= d members which must have atleast one member mentioned=0A> under it.=0A=0AI= think you have just described groupOfNames. I do not like groupOfNames=0A*= because* it makes the member attribute mandatory, which makes management=0A= complicated.=0A=0AAnyway, I cannot see this as a defect in OpenLDAP. LDAP s= chema is=0Aextensible: if you want something that is not in the standard se= t=0Ayou can add it locally. You say that you have used qmail's schema:=0Ais= there anything wrong with that?=0A=0AMost LDAP-capable mail systems can be= persuaded to use groups as=0Amailing lists, but that is a mail system issu= e not an OpenLDAP one.=0AIt could be argued that simple groups are not rich= enough to use=0Afor list expansion (no way to keep track of per-member lis= t=0Apreferences etc) but if we are going to talk about defining an=0Aimprov= ed group this is the wrong place to do it: maybe IETF's=0Aldapext list woul= d be better.=0A=0AAndrew=0A-- =0A------------------------------------------= -----------------------------=0A| From Andrew Findlay, Skil= ls 1st Ltd |=0A| Consultant in large-scale systems, network= s, and directory services |=0A| http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/ = +44 1628 782565 |=0A-----------------------------------------------= ------------------------=0A=0A=0A=0A From Chandigarh to Chennai - find= friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/citygroups= / --0-334172624-1228364660=:46006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<html><head><style type=3D"text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></he= ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;fon= t-size:12pt"><div>Thanks Andrew for the reply.<br></div><div style=3D"font-= family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br>QMail s= chema didn't seem to work for a distribution list. I am looking for other o= ptions as well.<br><br>I agree that this is a mail system issue. I am using= Exim/Dovecot for mails. I thought it was the LDAP which gets the group mai= l id from the address book for the Mail Client. <span style=3D"font-weight:= bold;">Eg.</span> In Outlook+AD+Exchange we have the CTRL+K option which g= ets the group id that points to more than one mailing address. I think ther= e is a basic understanding between Exchange and AD that does the trick.<br>= <br>With Regards<br>Bejoy<br><br><div style=3D"font-family: arial,helvetica= ,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><hr size=3D"1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Andrew F= indlay <andrew.findlay@skills-1st.co.uk><br><b><span style=3D"font-we= ight: bold;">To:</span></b> bejnet@yahoo.com<br><b><span style=3D"font-weig= ht: bold;">Cc:</span></b> openldap-its@openldap.org<br><b><span style=3D"fo= nt-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 3 December, 2008 2:02:05 PM<b= r><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: (ITS#5845) = Distribution List support for OpenLDAP schema<br></font><br>On Wed, Dec 03,= 2008 at 05:02:52AM +0000, <a ymailto=3D"mailto:bejnet@yahoo.com" href=3D"m= ailto:bejnet@yahoo.com">bejnet@yahoo.com</a> wrote:<br><br>> I want to c= reate distribution list in OpenLDAP. Meaning - If I have a group<br>> ca= lled <a ymailto=3D"mailto:admins@ldap.com" href=3D"mailto:admins@ldap.com">= admins@ldap.com</a> and there are two members - <a ymailto=3D"mailto:bejoy@= ldap.com" href=3D"mailto:bejoy@ldap.com">bejoy@ldap.com</a> and<br>> <a ymailto=3D"mailto:bejnet@ldap.com" href=3D"mailto:bejnet@ldap.com">bejnet@= ldap.com</a>; and mail is sent to <a ymailto=3D"mailto:admins@ldap.com" hre= f=3D"mailto:admins@ldap.com">admins@ldap.com</a> =3D both these members mus= t<br>> get the email. Exchange has this feature. This mail id should hav= e a display<br>> name feature as well - that would show up on search of = address books.<br>> <br>> At present the work around is using qmail's= schema for this distribution list. I<br>> believe inetOrgPerson schema = could have a group version too - which would need a<br>> compulsory attr= ibute called members which must have atleast one member mentioned<br>> u= nder it.<br><br>I think you have just described groupOfNames. I do not like= groupOfNames<br>*because* it makes the member attribute mandatory, which m= akes management<br>complicated.<br><br>Anyway, I cannot see this as a defec= t in OpenLDAP. LDAP schema is<br>extensible: if you want something that is = not in the standard set<br>you can add it locally. You say that you have used = qmail's schema:<br>is there anything wrong with that?<br><br>Most LDAP-capa= ble mail systems can be persuaded to use groups as<br>mailing lists, but th= at is a mail system issue not an OpenLDAP one.<br>It could be argued that s= imple groups are not rich enough to use<br>for list expansion (no way to ke= ep track of per-member list<br>preferences etc) but if we are going to talk= about defining an<br>improved group this is the wrong place to do it: mayb= e IETF's<br>ldapext list would be better.<br><br>Andrew<br>-- <br>---------= --------------------------------------------------------------<br>| &= nbsp; From Andrew Findlay, Skill= s 1st Ltd |<br>| Co= nsultant in large-scale systems, networks, and directory services |<br>|&nb= sp; <a href=3D"http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/</a> &nb= sp; +44 1628 782565 |<br>--------= ---------------------------------------------------------------<br></div></= div></div><br>=0A <!--6--><hr size=3D1></hr> Add more friends to your = messenger and enjoy! <a href=3D"http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_messenger_6/= *http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/%22%3E Invite them now.</a></body></html> --0-334172624-1228364660=:46006--