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Re: ITS#6055
by abartlet＠samba.org 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

--=-dnOZfedjaeI8f/8PVlNm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 04:32 +0200, masarati(a)aero.polimi.it wrote: > > My only concern is that it be maintained, so that the OpenLDAP backend > > can be a supported part of Samba4 into the long term. (I know it's not > > been in good shape for the past while, but there is hope we can get it > > back on track). > > > > Do contrib modules come with this level of maintenance? >=20 > Inherently no, because they would not be configured/built along with the > rest of the package. Of course, as soon as users (possibly including > myself) notice issues, they would be maintained (see for example nssov). >=20 > The most straightforward way of having it routinely built is to place it > in slapd/overlays/; I guess this needs consensus from the rest of the > team. I'd vote in favor; please holler. My eventual goal is that folks using a Ubuntu or Fedora system would have Samba4 'just work' with the packaged OpenLDAP. I can of course lobby them to get their packages updated to build from contrib, but it's easier if it's just in there.=20 Similarly, when I ask folks to configure with 'OpenLDAP HEAD' in the short term, it is of course easier for me if everything is already in place.=20 But this is your project, not mine, and I am happy with whatever we can make work.=20 Andrew Bartlett --=20 Andrew Bartlett http://samba.org/~abartlet/ Authentication Developer, Samba Team http://samba.org Samba Developer, Cisco Inc. --=-dnOZfedjaeI8f/8PVlNm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBLzmzwz4A8Wyi0NrsRAomfAJ9J4b76Ujcu5fC3Yig3lgIBJ712ywCeOw3U fDuSKTOqEEfK1JEriBOcJ8g= =FSwh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-dnOZfedjaeI8f/8PVlNm--

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Re: ITS#6055
by masarati＠aero.polimi.it 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

> masarati(a)aero.polimi.it wrote: >>> My only concern is that it be maintained, so that the OpenLDAP backend >>> can be a supported part of Samba4 into the long term. (I know it's not >>> been in good shape for the past while, but there is hope we can get it >>> back on track). >>> >>> Do contrib modules come with this level of maintenance? >> >> Inherently no, because they would not be configured/built along with the >> rest of the package. Of course, as soon as users (possibly including >> myself) notice issues, they would be maintained (see for example nssov). >> >> The most straightforward way of having it routinely built is to place it >> in slapd/overlays/; I guess this needs consensus from the rest of the >> team. I'd vote in favor; please holler. > > I think contrib is the right place for now. It seems to me that the > requirements here are still a moving target, so it's better in contrib. > (Contrib items are free to add new features independent of the rest of the > release cycle. Items in the main slapd/overlays are more constrained to > bugfixes-only within a release cycle.) Fair enough. I've started committing stuff to contrib/slapd-modules/samba4 p.

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Re: ITS#6055
by hyc＠symas.com 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

masarati(a)aero.polimi.it wrote: >> My only concern is that it be maintained, so that the OpenLDAP backend >> can be a supported part of Samba4 into the long term. (I know it's not >> been in good shape for the past while, but there is hope we can get it >> back on track). >> >> Do contrib modules come with this level of maintenance? > > Inherently no, because they would not be configured/built along with the > rest of the package. Of course, as soon as users (possibly including > myself) notice issues, they would be maintained (see for example nssov). > > The most straightforward way of having it routinely built is to place it > in slapd/overlays/; I guess this needs consensus from the rest of the > team. I'd vote in favor; please holler. I think contrib is the right place for now. It seems to me that the requirements here are still a moving target, so it's better in contrib. (Contrib items are free to add new features independent of the rest of the release cycle. Items in the main slapd/overlays are more constrained to bugfixes-only within a release cycle.) -- -- Howard Chu CTO, Symas Corp. http://www.symas.com Director, Highland Sun http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ Chief Architect, OpenLDAP http://www.openldap.org/project/

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Re: ITS#6055
by masarati＠aero.polimi.it 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

> My only concern is that it be maintained, so that the OpenLDAP backend > can be a supported part of Samba4 into the long term. (I know it's not > been in good shape for the past while, but there is hope we can get it > back on track). > > Do contrib modules come with this level of maintenance? Inherently no, because they would not be configured/built along with the rest of the package. Of course, as soon as users (possibly including myself) notice issues, they would be maintained (see for example nssov). The most straightforward way of having it routinely built is to place it in slapd/overlays/; I guess this needs consensus from the rest of the team. I'd vote in favor; please holler. p.

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Re: ITS#6055
by abartlet＠samba.org 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

--=-plI2z6xrAOfHgQ7f8NT2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 03:44 +0200, masarati(a)aero.polimi.it wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 15:37 +0200, masarati(a)aero.polimi.it wrote: > >> > That's no problem at all. > >> > >> Good. This version explicitly check for instantiation as global, and > >> also > >> does some further sanity checks prior to startup. > >> > >> <ftp://ftp.openldap.org/incoming/pierangelo-masarati-2010-04-20-rdnval= .2.c> > >> > >> > It now just fails in the same was as without > >> > the patch. I'll mention it on openldap-technical if I can't get > >> > assistance on #ldap. > >> > >> Not quite clear what patch and what failure you refer to. Anyway, I'v= e > >> tested this version of the overlay as global (refuses to start) and on= a > >> database, either empty or populated, and it works as intended. Please > >> test and report. Thanks, p. > > > > It seems to be working well. When can I expect it to be in the tree? > > > > (I'll then require folks to use the current OpenLDAP CVS if they want t= o > > use the LDAP backend). >=20 > I can commit it in a minute. It's not 100% clear to me what's the most > appropriate location: slapd/overlays/ may not, as this looks like > something definitely specific to Samba4; probably, contrib/slapd-modules/ > is more appropriate. Perhaps, a contrib/slapd-modules/samba4/ would be > the most appropriate, along with future specific (i.e. not of general > usefulness) modules, as we did for the nssov module. >=20 > Comments? I mean, from others, not only from you :) My only concern is that it be maintained, so that the OpenLDAP backend can be a supported part of Samba4 into the long term. (I know it's not been in good shape for the past while, but there is hope we can get it back on track).=20 Do contrib modules come with this level of maintenance? Andrew Bartlett --=20 Andrew Bartlett http://samba.org/~abartlet/ Authentication Developer, Samba Team http://samba.org Samba Developer, Cisco Inc. --=-plI2z6xrAOfHgQ7f8NT2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBLzmHxz4A8Wyi0NrsRAlF3AKCXBqb/jzSgemy/GREWapoan6QkVwCgj1of Dmourk1xQiMAlvWFJocYuSQ= =rE8J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-plI2z6xrAOfHgQ7f8NT2--

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Re: ITS#6055
by masarati＠aero.polimi.it 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

> On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 15:37 +0200, masarati(a)aero.polimi.it wrote: >> > That's no problem at all. >> >> Good. This version explicitly check for instantiation as global, and >> also >> does some further sanity checks prior to startup. >> >> <ftp://ftp.openldap.org/incoming/pierangelo-masarati-2010-04-20-rdnval.2.c> >> >> > It now just fails in the same was as without >> > the patch. I'll mention it on openldap-technical if I can't get >> > assistance on #ldap. >> >> Not quite clear what patch and what failure you refer to. Anyway, I've >> tested this version of the overlay as global (refuses to start) and on a >> database, either empty or populated, and it works as intended. Please >> test and report. Thanks, p. > > It seems to be working well. When can I expect it to be in the tree? > > (I'll then require folks to use the current OpenLDAP CVS if they want to > use the LDAP backend). I can commit it in a minute. It's not 100% clear to me what's the most appropriate location: slapd/overlays/ may not, as this looks like something definitely specific to Samba4; probably, contrib/slapd-modules/ is more appropriate. Perhaps, a contrib/slapd-modules/samba4/ would be the most appropriate, along with future specific (i.e. not of general usefulness) modules, as we did for the nssov module. Comments? I mean, from others, not only from you :) p.

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Re: ITS#6055
by abartlet＠samba.org 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

--=-u2bdcYXWzM+LH/qgpb9q Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 15:37 +0200, masarati(a)aero.polimi.it wrote: > > That's no problem at all. >=20 > Good. This version explicitly check for instantiation as global, and als= o > does some further sanity checks prior to startup. >=20 > <ftp://ftp.openldap.org/incoming/pierangelo-masarati-2010-04-20-rdnval.2.= c> >=20 > > It now just fails in the same was as without > > the patch. I'll mention it on openldap-technical if I can't get > > assistance on #ldap. >=20 > Not quite clear what patch and what failure you refer to. Anyway, I've > tested this version of the overlay as global (refuses to start) and on a > database, either empty or populated, and it works as intended. Please > test and report. Thanks, p. It seems to be working well. When can I expect it to be in the tree? (I'll then require folks to use the current OpenLDAP CVS if they want to use the LDAP backend). Andrew Bartlett --=20 Andrew Bartlett http://samba.org/~abartlet/ Authentication Developer, Samba Team http://samba.org Samba Developer, Cisco Inc. --=-u2bdcYXWzM+LH/qgpb9q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBLzldRz4A8Wyi0NrsRAgzTAJ4lv6P1wia2JLA7L2jPNkpgEvX3FwCgqyY0 jrguLg5MsW14D6wPlNThuko= =F1ZZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-u2bdcYXWzM+LH/qgpb9q--

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Re: (ITS#6165) Support offline modify (slapmodify) for cn=config
by quanah＠zimbra.com 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

--On Tuesday, April 20, 2010 4:03 AM +0000 masarati(a)aero.polimi.it wrote: > >> Very cute, but it fails the second portion of the requirement, which is >> command validation. ;) > > Here's a poor man's implementation. It *should* work for add & modify; > don't quite know how to delete entries; this also implies renaming. > probably, this would need be_tool_rename & be_tool_delete hooks. Cannot > compete in efficiency with slapadd; uses newly added ldifutil stuff > (ITS#6194). Please test. Cool, thanks! I'll give it a spin :) I believe delete support was added to back-ldif in HEAD, but I'm not sure how it works either. --Quanah -- Quanah Gibson-Mount Principal Software Engineer Zimbra, Inc -------------------- Zimbra :: the leader in open source messaging and collaboration

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Re: ITS#6055
by masarati＠aero.polimi.it 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

> That's no problem at all. Good. This version explicitly check for instantiation as global, and also does some further sanity checks prior to startup. <ftp://ftp.openldap.org/incoming/pierangelo-masarati-2010-04-20-rdnval.2.c> > It now just fails in the same was as without > the patch. I'll mention it on openldap-technical if I can't get > assistance on #ldap. Not quite clear what patch and what failure you refer to. Anyway, I've tested this version of the overlay as global (refuses to start) and on a database, either empty or populated, and it works as intended. Please test and report. Thanks, p.

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Re: ITS#6055
by abartlet＠samba.org 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

--=-8VSfpSadYnNS78ACEBD7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 07:11 +0200, masarati(a)aero.polimi.it wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 02:15 +0200, masarati(a)aero.polimi.it wrote: > >> Refactored rdnval.c available at > >> > >> <ftp://ftp.openldap.org/incoming/pierangelo-masarati-2010-04-18-rdnval= .c> > >> > >> attempts to repair the database at startup; useful when the overlay is > >> configured for an existing database. Please test. > > > > Sadly it segfaults on startup (we don't have the DB at startup - we > > expect the first operations to create them). >=20 > It's not that sad: this overlay is not intended to be used as global. Yo= u > should use it within any database you want the rdnvalue stored. I haven'= t > considered yet how hard it would be to allow it to be global, and if it's > worth. Since it needs to write operational attributes to the directory, > it may run into issues in case non-local storage databases are used, and > it'd definitely risk to suffer from authentication issues. Does it make > sense for you to add an instance in each database you need rndvalue for? That's no problem at all. It now just fails in the same was as without the patch. I'll mention it on openldap-technical if I can't get assistance on #ldap. Then, when I get past that, I'll get back to this! Andrew Bartlett --=20 Andrew Bartlett http://samba.org/~abartlet/ Authentication Developer, Samba Team http://samba.org Samba Developer, Cisco Inc. --=-8VSfpSadYnNS78ACEBD7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBLzU0sz4A8Wyi0NrsRAu1jAKCZMe8/cj55Qm+nFk1lZ0nRDnvQWACfXKCh jbVrJNvjzyeb5W6fOR49u58= =UMuS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-8VSfpSadYnNS78ACEBD7--

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