Hi,
I have set up and configured openldap 2.3 servers (master-slave) that comes with CentOS 5.4. I use openldap to centralize Linux/Unix user account management. Everything works as expected. However, I am confused about changing user password. Without LDAP, we use file-based authentication (/etc/passwd and /etc/shadow), so users can change their password via "passwd" command. Now I have migrated all my users to LDAP with default password policy, users can still use passwd command to change the password, but LDAP password policy is not enforced, for example, my ldap password policy has a minimum password length requirement of 12, and I am able to change user password to something less than 12 characters. However, if users use "ldappasswd -x -vv -S -W -D uid=user1,ou=People,dc=IT,dc=Company" to change their password, the LDAP password policy will be enforced, ie they will not allow to change to a password less than 12 characters.
Are the users supposed to use passwd OR ldappasswd command to change their password? It's very inconvenient for users to use ldappassword command to change password as you can see they have to do much more typing, and some novice users are not even aware of ldappasswd command. I am confused here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Wei
On Monday, 2 August 2010 21:34:41 weigao88@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I have set up and configured openldap 2.3 servers (master-slave) that comes with CentOS 5.4. I use openldap to centralize Linux/Unix user account management. Everything works as expected. However, I am confused about changing user password. Without LDAP, we use file-based authentication (/etc/passwd and /etc/shadow), so users can change their password via "passwd" command. Now I have migrated all my users to LDAP with default password policy, users can still use passwd command to change the password, but LDAP password policy is not enforced, for example, my ldap password policy has a minimum password length requirement of 12, and I am able to change user password to something less than 12 characters.
Consider how ldappasswd changes the password, and compare it to how your pam_ldap is configured to change the password.
In this case, most likely, you have pam_ldap configured to hash the new value for userPassword before sending it to the LDAP server as the new value. So, the LDAP server doesn't see the clear text, only the hash, thus it can't enforce any quality controls on the password, as it only gets the hash.
However, if users use "ldappasswd -x -vv -S -W -D uid=user1,ou=People,dc=IT,dc=Company" to change their password, the LDAP password policy will be enforced, ie they will not allow to change to a password less than 12 characters.
In this case, the LDAP client is providing the new password in clear text (so, you should have transport encryption in place).
Are the users supposed to use passwd OR ldappasswd command to change their password? It's very inconvenient for users to use ldappassword command to change password as you can see they have to do much more typing, and some novice users are not even aware of ldappasswd command. I am confused here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You need to configure your pam_ldap to do a password change via extended operation, by setting:
pam_password exop
in /etc/ldap.conf
Regards, Buchan
And make sure pam_ldap is ref'd in your 'password' pam file (CentOS 5.4: just do it in /etc/pam.d/system-auth).
- chris
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----- Original Message ----- From: openldap-technical-bounces@OpenLDAP.org openldap-technical-bounces@OpenLDAP.org To: openldap-technical@openldap.org openldap-technical@openldap.org Cc: weigao88@gmail.com weigao88@gmail.com Sent: Tue Aug 03 04:31:29 2010 Subject: Re: Change User Password (passwd vs. ldappasswd)
On Monday, 2 August 2010 21:34:41 weigao88@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I have set up and configured openldap 2.3 servers (master-slave) that comes with CentOS 5.4. I use openldap to centralize Linux/Unix user account management. Everything works as expected. However, I am confused about changing user password. Without LDAP, we use file-based authentication (/etc/passwd and /etc/shadow), so users can change their password via "passwd" command. Now I have migrated all my users to LDAP with default password policy, users can still use passwd command to change the password, but LDAP password policy is not enforced, for example, my ldap password policy has a minimum password length requirement of 12, and I am able to change user password to something less than 12 characters.
Consider how ldappasswd changes the password, and compare it to how your pam_ldap is configured to change the password.
In this case, most likely, you have pam_ldap configured to hash the new value for userPassword before sending it to the LDAP server as the new value. So, the LDAP server doesn't see the clear text, only the hash, thus it can't enforce any quality controls on the password, as it only gets the hash.
However, if users use "ldappasswd -x -vv -S -W -D uid=user1,ou=People,dc=IT,dc=Company" to change their password, the LDAP password policy will be enforced, ie they will not allow to change to a password less than 12 characters.
In this case, the LDAP client is providing the new password in clear text (so, you should have transport encryption in place).
Are the users supposed to use passwd OR ldappasswd command to change their password? It's very inconvenient for users to use ldappassword command to change password as you can see they have to do much more typing, and some novice users are not even aware of ldappasswd command. I am confused here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You need to configure your pam_ldap to do a password change via extended operation, by setting:
pam_password exop
in /etc/ldap.conf
Regards, Buchan
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Thank you Buchan. After I added pam_password exop to client /etc/ldap.conf, the password quality check is now enforced when my users change their passwords via "passwd" command.
However, I ran into a couple other issues. I have pwdMustChange set to true in my default ppolicy. I changed a user's password as Manager on LDAP server or via the following command on my LDAP server
ldappasswd -x -D "cn=Manager,dc=example,dc=company" -W -S "uid=user1,ou=People,dc=example,dc=company"
Since I have pwdMustChange set to true, the user is required to change his password when he tries to log in next time. But the system doesn't prompt the user to change his password. And when I ran slapcat -a '(uid=user1)', I saw most Operational Attributes except pwdReset. All my settings seem to be correct. I couldn't figure out what is wrong here.
The other issue I ran into was: In my default ppolicy, I have pwdExpireWarning set to 1209600 (14 days). My password is going to expire in 12 days, how come I don't see a warning message when I ssh to my system?
Did anybody else run into these two issues before? Thank you for your help.
On Aug 3, 2010 7:31am, Buchan Milne bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net wrote:
On Monday, 2 August 2010 21:34:41 weigao88@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I have set up and configured openldap 2.3 servers (master-slave) that
comes
with CentOS 5.4. I use openldap to centralize Linux/Unix user account
management. Everything works as expected. However, I am confused about
changing user password. Without LDAP, we use file-based authentication
(/etc/passwd and /etc/shadow), so users can change their password
via "passwd" command. Now I have migrated all my users to LDAP with
default
password policy, users can still use passwd command to change the
password,
but LDAP password policy is not enforced, for example, my ldap password
policy has a minimum password length requirement of 12, and I am able to
change user password to something less than 12 characters.
Consider how ldappasswd changes the password, and compare it to how your
pam_ldap is configured to change the password.
In this case, most likely, you have pam_ldap configured to hash the new value
for userPassword before sending it to the LDAP server as the new value. So,
the LDAP server doesn't see the clear text, only the hash, thus it can't
enforce any quality controls on the password, as it only gets the hash.
However, if
users use "ldappasswd -x -vv -S -W -D
uid=user1,ou=People,dc=IT,dc=Company"
to change their password, the LDAP password policy will be enforced, ie
they will not allow to change to a password less than 12 characters.
In this case, the LDAP client is providing the new password in clear text (so,
you should have transport encryption in place).
Are the users supposed to use passwd OR ldappasswd command to change
their
password? It's very inconvenient for users to use ldappassword command
to
change password as you can see they have to do much more typing, and
some
novice users are not even aware of ldappasswd command. I am confused
here.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You need to configure your pam_ldap to do a password change via extended
operation, by setting:
pam_password exop
in /etc/ldap.conf
Regards,
Buchan
openldap-technical@openldap.org
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Buchan Milne -
Chris Jacobs -
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