Hi Mark,
thanks for getting back.
I've since dug out my +10y old configuration and managed to set things up pretty easily.
There are some headaches and pitfalls, yes, but for a r/o address book it still works pretty well.
After adding pcache, performance got a lot better, too. Not perfect of course, but it works well enough.
Will probably only know in a couple of weeks how well it really works, performance and stability wise.
BR Udo
On 19.10.21 19:27, Mark Murawski wrote:
Hi Udo,
After months of troubleshooting. I've determined that back-sql is missing core functionality that prevents its use in terms of implementing a full-service ldap system.
I am a developer, but I don't have the time to deep-dive into this. What I would up doing was storing my data in postgres and then exporting to a read-only standard ldap backend. And re-exporting once a day to address changes to the data in postgres.
Hope this helps.
Thanks.
On 10/15/21 5:00 PM, Udo Rader wrote:
Hi, I need to expose some data stored in a postgres database using OpenLDAP. In the past, I've used back-sql for that purpose and it has worked quite nicely, but that has been a very long time ago. Now, after digging through the archives a little bit, I read that the usage of the backend is discouraged, because it is unmaintained. What I basically need is an LDAP based address book, that users can connect to using their macOS based MUAs. So if we say, that the backend is only used for read-only access, is it still not recommended? And maybe, if the backend happens to be unusable, are there any viable alternatives that come to mind? Thanks Udo
Hi Udo,
Would you mind sharing your back-sql configuration for read-only? Like I mentioned in the last post I spent time over a period of a few months working on this and I couldn't get children of children to load at all. The queries weren't even asking for the data... not sure why.
On 10/20/21 10:00 AM, Udo Rader wrote:
Hi Mark,
thanks for getting back.
I've since dug out my +10y old configuration and managed to set things up pretty easily.
There are some headaches and pitfalls, yes, but for a r/o address book it still works pretty well.
After adding pcache, performance got a lot better, too. Not perfect of course, but it works well enough.
Will probably only know in a couple of weeks how well it really works, performance and stability wise.
BR Udo
On 19.10.21 19:27, Mark Murawski wrote:
Hi Udo,
After months of troubleshooting. I've determined that back-sql is missing core functionality that prevents its use in terms of implementing a full-service ldap system.
I am a developer, but I don't have the time to deep-dive into this. What I would up doing was storing my data in postgres and then exporting to a read-only standard ldap backend. And re-exporting once a day to address changes to the data in postgres.
Hope this helps.
Thanks.
On 10/15/21 5:00 PM, Udo Rader wrote:
Hi, I need to expose some data stored in a postgres database using OpenLDAP. In the past, I've used back-sql for that purpose and it has worked quite nicely, but that has been a very long time ago. Now, after digging through the archives a little bit, I read that the usage of the backend is discouraged, because it is unmaintained. What I basically need is an LDAP based address book, that users can connect to using their macOS based MUAs. So if we say, that the backend is only used for read-only access, is it still not recommended? And maybe, if the backend happens to be unusable, are there any viable alternatives that come to mind? Thanks Udo
Hi Mark,
I took a different approach on the kids problem. Instead of handling that in in back-sql, I created a flat table "ldap_addresses" in postgresql.
A cronjob populates this table with fresh data every hour. The SQL query to assemble the data as a flat table is quite complex, but I found that a lot easier then to do this in back-sql.
So in my case, there are no recursions, just simple WHERE conditions.
Say for example you have users working in different departments. And now you want to list users working in a specific department.
In LDAP notation you'd probably have a filter like (ou=departmentA) with a "subtree" scope. In case of my flat table, I have a dedicated column "department" that is linked to the LDAP attribute in ldap_attr_mappings:
INSERT INTO ldap_attr_mappings (id,oc_map_id,name,sel_expr,from_tbls,join_where,add_proc,delete_proc,param_order,expect_return) values (1,1,'ou','department','ldap_addresses',NULL,NULL,NULL,3,0);
A flat table like mine may have it's disadvantages, but for my ~5000 addresses it works pretty well.
And if I ever wanted to allow modifications as well (new, update, delete), all I had to do was to add triggers to that flat table and send the data where it belongs to in my RDBMS.
I don't know if that makes sense to you :)
BR Udo
On 20.10.21 16:30, Mark Murawski wrote:
Hi Udo,
Would you mind sharing your back-sql configuration for read-only? Like I mentioned in the last post I spent time over a period of a few months working on this and I couldn't get children of children to load at all. The queries weren't even asking for the data... not sure why.
On 10/20/21 10:00 AM, Udo Rader wrote:
Hi Mark,
thanks for getting back.
I've since dug out my +10y old configuration and managed to set things up pretty easily.
There are some headaches and pitfalls, yes, but for a r/o address book it still works pretty well.
After adding pcache, performance got a lot better, too. Not perfect of course, but it works well enough.
Will probably only know in a couple of weeks how well it really works, performance and stability wise.
BR Udo
On 19.10.21 19:27, Mark Murawski wrote:
Hi Udo,
After months of troubleshooting. I've determined that back-sql is missing core functionality that prevents its use in terms of implementing a full-service ldap system.
I am a developer, but I don't have the time to deep-dive into this. What I would up doing was storing my data in postgres and then exporting to a read-only standard ldap backend. And re-exporting once a day to address changes to the data in postgres.
Hope this helps.
Thanks.
On 10/15/21 5:00 PM, Udo Rader wrote:
Hi, I need to expose some data stored in a postgres database using OpenLDAP. In the past, I've used back-sql for that purpose and it has worked quite nicely, but that has been a very long time ago. Now, after digging through the archives a little bit, I read that the usage of the backend is discouraged, because it is unmaintained. What I basically need is an LDAP based address book, that users can connect to using their macOS based MUAs. So if we say, that the backend is only used for read-only access, is it still not recommended? And maybe, if the backend happens to be unusable, are there any viable alternatives that come to mind? Thanks Udo
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