From h.b.furuseth@usit.uio.no Tue Apr 14 08:18:10 2015 From: Hallvard Breien Furuseth To: openldap-devel@openldap.org Subject: www.openldap.org not mobile-friendly Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:18:05 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6118366154605756804==" --===============6118366154605756804== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the tests. Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now. -- Hallvard --===============6118366154605756804==-- From clem.oudot@gmail.com Tue Apr 14 18:53:10 2015 From: =?utf-8?q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= OUDOT To: openldap-devel@openldap.org Subject: Re: www.openldap.org not mobile-friendly Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 20:53:02 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6288387470065673309==" --===============6288387470065673309== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2015-04-14 10:18 GMT+02:00 Hallvard Breien Furuseth : > It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the > tests. > Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now. Hi, I think we need some work to have a better website. I could try to propose a new version that uses Bootstrap to support mobile view. What is the best way to work on this topic? Cl=C3=A9ment. --===============6288387470065673309==-- From michael@stroeder.com Tue Apr 14 21:58:25 2015 From: Michael =?utf-8?q?Str=C3=B6der?= To: openldap-devel@openldap.org Subject: Re: www.openldap.org not mobile-friendly Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 23:53:13 +0200 Message-ID: <552D8C49.8080103@stroeder.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5026369659075323536==" --===============5026369659075323536== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cl=C3=A9ment OUDOT wrote: > 2015-04-14 10:18 GMT+02:00 Hallvard Breien Furuseth : >> It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the >> tests. >> Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now. Already fixed in the mean-time? https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fw= ww.openldap.org Or Google changed its service? > I think we need some work to have a better website. I could try to propose > a new version that uses Bootstrap to support mobile view. What is the best > way to work on this topic? I have to admit that I'm not too excited of today's standard "responsive=20 design" of most web sites. Bear in mind the audience visiting OpenLDAP's web = site: Most times those are admins sitting at their normal workstation (with=20 large screens) looking for technical information while working out a specific= =20 issue. In general OpenLDAP's web site needs a careful update. But not this bootstrap= =20 stuff which is not usable with normal browsers without excessive scrolling. Given that all my web sites receive the Google mobile rating "Awesome! This page is mobile-friendly." it's obviously possible to achieve a good ranking with minimal effort for a=20 normal web site. I found it helpful to follow some of the hints given by this service: https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fww= w.openldap.org One of the most important things was to add this to section: I've deliberately ignored some other suggestions though. 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--===============5026369659075323536==-- From escidmore@symas.com Tue Apr 14 22:57:04 2015 From: Evelyn Scidmore To: openldap-devel@openldap.org Subject: Re: www.openldap.org not mobile-friendly Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 15:56:56 -0700 Message-ID: <552D9B38.60905@symas.com> In-Reply-To: <552D8C49.8080103@stroeder.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2387328147623147109==" --===============2387328147623147109== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 4/14/2015 2:53 PM, Michael Ströder wrote: > Clément OUDOT wrote: >> 2015-04-14 10:18 GMT+02:00 Hallvard Breien Furuseth >> : >>> It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the >>> tests. >>> Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now. > > Already fixed in the mean-time? Since I have easy access to make the changes, I went ahead and fixed this so that for most purposes in non-mobile browsers things look the same, but on mobile browsers everything is more friendly. The whole site could probably use a revamp at some point, but solving the problem in front of us here (the concern about google page rankings) without having to rework the site completely was pretty simple: * As Michael Ströder said, adding * Changing the table with the bullet points on the main page so that it's using floating divs instead of tables with columns, letting it wrap properly for very narrow (mobile) displays. The end result is that it should look the same for most users. For anyone who is using a small display, it should function without pushing everything off the side of the screen. Google's analysis tool now calls it mobile friendly. -Evelyn --===============2387328147623147109==-- From clem.oudot@gmail.com Wed Apr 15 06:57:28 2015 From: =?utf-8?q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= OUDOT To: openldap-devel@openldap.org Subject: Re: www.openldap.org not mobile-friendly Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 08:57:20 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <552D9B38.60905@symas.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7067053341164810489==" --===============7067053341164810489== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 2015-04-15 0:56 GMT+02:00 Evelyn Scidmore : > On 4/14/2015 2:53 PM, Michael Ströder wrote: >> >> Clément OUDOT wrote: >>> >>> 2015-04-14 10:18 GMT+02:00 Hallvard Breien Furuseth >>> : >>>> >>>> It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the >>>> tests. >>>> Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now. >> >> >> Already fixed in the mean-time? > > Since I have easy access to make the changes, I went ahead and fixed this so > that for most purposes in non-mobile browsers things look the same, but on > mobile browsers everything is more friendly. The whole site could probably > use a revamp at some point, but solving the problem in front of us here (the > concern about google page rankings) without having to rework the site > completely was pretty simple: > > * As Michael Ströder said, adding content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1"> > * Changing the table with the bullet points on the main page so that it's > using floating divs instead of tables with columns, letting it wrap properly > for very narrow (mobile) displays. > > The end result is that it should look the same for most users. For anyone > who is using a small display, it should function without pushing everything > off the side of the screen. Google's analysis tool now calls it mobile > friendly. Well, thanks for fixing the mobile view. But I think we could have a more general discussion about the look and feel of the website. I agree OpenLDAP is dedicated to system administrators, but this is not an excuse to have an, excuse me for the term, "ugly" website. There is also a work to do on the content, as some pages were not updated since years, see for example: http://www.openldap.org/conf/ I am willing to help the community on this topic, if any help is welcome. Clément. --===============7067053341164810489==--